For Gonzalo Olivera, Marketing Is an Exercise in Curiosity

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For Gonzalo Olivera, Marketing Is an Exercise in Curiosity

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Gonzalo Olivera, managing partner at MullenLowe Singapore, tells LBB why he advocates for more complex measurement metrics, the challenges and dynamism of marketing in the APAC region, and the benefits of ‘positive dissatisfaction’.

Before a move to Singapore in 2013, Gonzalo Olivera – MullenLowe Singapore’s managing partner – spent his career working around Europe, in Italy, UK, Spain, and Denmark. He first joined MullenLowe in 2008 as part of the Global Magnum team to aid in relaunching the brand on a global scale. Excited by the challenges and cultural diversity of the APAC region, Gonzalo notes that it has the biggest growth potential of anywhere else in the world. Gonzalo thinks it’s a misnomer to refer to APAC as a region at all since it’s highly fragmented through language and culture, unlike Europe or LATAM.

Gonzalo approaches marketing with a wide lens and heaps of curiosity. He’s a believer in the diversity of thinking, holding it central to being an effective and switched-on marketer. He’s also highly analytical as reflected in his writing on ‘chronocetrism’ and ‘positive dissatisfaction’; two concepts that he applies to his work in order to challenge clients and bring about positive, long-term results. Cautious of overly simplistic metrics, Gonzalo likewise wants clients to think proactively and beyond the ‘now’ which can create bad habits that sacrifice future success in favour of measurable present.

LBB speaks to Gonzalo to learn more about his expansive view of marketing and growth, the benefits of complexity, and the one bottle of wine he would recommend – yes, Gonzalo is also a certified sommelier!

Q.

Gonzalo, can you give us a bit of a history of what’s brought you to where you are today?

Before coming to Singapore in 2013, I spent a large part of my career across different European markets in account management. Step by step, I started focusing more on growth. Which is much more than new business and pitching but looking at a holistic approach on how to find sources of growth for the agency as a business.

For me, Asia is the most interesting region on the planet and offers a unique blend of lifestyle and professional experiences. I’ve been with MullenLowe for 15 years and during that time I also set up my own start-up business. It’s been a really fulfilling process working within a culture so different from the one I grew up in.

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Having worked in various European markets before moving to Singapore, how have these diverse cultural experiences influenced your approach to marketing and brand strategy?

Diversity of thinking is a must-have to enhance creativity. If you think of engineering, computing or medicine, people become experts in those fields by specifically studying to adopt technical knowledge. Even an expert in philosophy has probably studied the work of noted philosophers for years. Marketing is an exception, many people who end up in marketing do not have specific marketing degrees.

This should change…and it’s changing. However, it will always be a specialism that requires constant updates. If you want to be a good marketeer you must be curious, it’s an exercise of constantly observing what’s happening in the industry and the world and how they match. Being surrounded by diversity and living in different places is great for exercising curiosity and observational skills and breaking away from your own confirmation bias.

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As someone leading growth for MullenLowe Group in APAC, what challenges and opportunities do you see in the region's dynamic market?

The most exciting challenge in the APAC region is that it’s not monolithic and has the biggest growth potential on the planet. Yet, it is the most fragmented and diverse part of the world. Typically, regions are built over time around shared values and approaches to life. Despite having a history of division and war, LATAM and Europe found common values to unite around. For APAC this is not the case.

This makes advertising in the region a challenge. Just think of the number of languages, ethnicities, and religions. Today most organizations approach the region as a federation of markets, with local marketers usually wanting their independence and demonstrating their understanding of market nuances to adopt a different approach. This might result in tactical, executional work that lacks an overarching strategy.

In this sense APAC is too big and complex to ever act as a region, but Southeast Asia is the one area that may be able to. However, a big shift is required. Local markets still put too much emphasis on shallow nuances and temporary trends that make their markets “different”, ignoring and longer-term cultural trends that could bring the region together

Cultural diversity should not be neglected, but if marketers are able to find common ground and unifying values when working in Southeast Asia, they would be able to save a lot of money and focus on bigger picture brand growth.

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You've been involved in relaunching global brands like Magnum. Can you share insights into how you approach reinventing a brand while keeping its core identity intact?

The foundational driving force of a reinvention exercise is business growth; brands exist to generate demand, which means their core purpose is to drive business. This means a brand reinvigoration occurs when a business is forecasting where growth is going to come from in the future and realigning its own brand positioning in response.

Culture and human values are constantly evolving, which is the basic principle for how we approach reinventing a brand—it’s important to understand where the culture is headed and work out what role your brand can play in that space. Too much focus is placed on what people think today, and too little on the cultural shifts happening and why.

Yet, at the same time, the important thing is trying to be true to your heritage, as everything else can be copied by competitors.

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You've written about the concept of ‘chronocentrism’ and its impact on society and marketing. How should brands navigate this tendency to avoid falling into the trap of opportunistic drama?

‘Chronocentrism’ refers to the belief that our moment in time is more significant and defining than any other, which can lead to pessimism about the times we live in. However, this can be a trap for advertisers, mainly because the tendency provokes everyone to overemphasize short term results and be more reactive than proactive. ‘It’s just the times we live in’ is a simple way to deflect responsibility and not take a deeper look at the root cause of problems.

Somehow, it can create a culture of not having to fight for things or doing deeper thinking, because it’s out of our control. But that’s a fallacy…and this industry requires a lot of fighting.

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Could you elaborate on how 'Positive Dissatisfaction' can be applied in a practical sense within the marketing industry, especially in today's fast-paced and often negative news cycle?

To me, ‘Positive Dissatisfaction’ is about not stopping at ‘good enough’. It’s a driver of ambition and a source of motivation.

As an example, a client recently shared that their growth is steady, the KPIs they are tracking are improving. In this situation, you would normally say they don’t need to change anything. Yet, using a ‘Positive Dissatisfied’ lens can help us start seeing gaps. We can ask questions like: Are their KPIs right? Will they be relevant in two years given changes in the category? Are they leaving money on the table by ignoring a bigger opportunity someone else will tap on sooner or later?

‘Positive’ is key, because positivity brings people together in a more sustainable manner than negativity, which is focused on the short term because it plays with fear and anxiety.

Q.

Given your interest in innovative solutions like BioCarbon Engineering's tree-planting drones, how do you see such innovations playing a role in the marketing strategies of brands looking to enhance their sustainability credentials?

Sustainability is on its way to becoming hygiene, rather than a side conversation that a box brand needs to check. It’s no longer enough for brands to make generic statements about sustainability being part of their DNA; to me the start is more specific, brands need to make sure their people are trained and well-aware of the sustainability impact their products have.

The kind of disruptive thinking happening in sustainability innovation is impressive. BioCarbon Engineering is one example but there are hundreds. The thinking behind this is not simply about creating a business that makes financial sense and is profitable, but also making sure it can be scaled to drive global impact. Such a mindset is a true embodiment of ‘Positive Dissatisfaction’.

Q.

You’ve written about the ‘Obsession with Personalisation,’ where you distinguish between personalisation and genuine care. How do you think brands can effectively balance these in their customer engagement strategies?

The notion of ‘personalisation’ sees people being addressed as robots who constantly need content to interact and engage with, and whose actions regarding an ad will be monitored and recorded. However, often, those actions are non-consequential and even accidental; they don’t mean anything for the brand or the business, they are just a tick or a number in a box in someone’s report.

This goes to show weekly performance metrics are not always a true driver of business.

What we do is fight for memory. Our work is only as valuable as our capacity to be remembered by our audience during a key moment in time. I always advocate for metrics that might be more complex to track but have a truer and more differentiating business impact.

For example, if you are a brand in a highly competitive category, what makes a difference to growth is product superiority and level of customer service. You might want to track which percentage of your audience spontaneously feels you are a superior product that offers a better service. If you measure it well, you will realise that metric will be correlated to your growth over time.

Q.

For those aspiring to have a successful career in marketing and brand management, what advice would you give based on your own experiences and learnings?

This industry is about being constantly curious about something and distilling knowledge and advice from people around you. If I could give one piece of advice, I would encourage young team members to come into the office to sit with their teams and have conversations with others, because in this industry you grow through meaningful interactions with people. Also…keep reading, keep asking questions to yourself.

Q.

Finally, we hear you’re a qualified sommelier. If you could recommend only one bottle of wine which would it be?

Wine is an experience, so I would go with a bottle I drank with my dad, from whom I inherited the passion for wine. It’s a very affordable bottle — surprisingly value for money. It’s called Son De Arriero, Ribeiro.

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